Gingrey on ‘Legitimate Rape’ Comment: Do You Agree?
U.S. Rep. Phil Gingrey, R-Marietta, touched on the hot-button issue during an address to the Smyrna Area Council of the Cobb Chamber of Commerce. Tell us what you think of Gingrey’s comments.
The phrase “legitimate rape,” uttered by the now former U.S. Rep. Todd Akin last August in the midst of his re-election campaign, is one he and Republicans likely hoped most Republicans would forget last year. Akin’s comments suggesting that victims of "legitimate rape" have a built-in defense against pregnancy likely played a factor in the Missouri Republican's political defeat in November.
While Akin’s comments became part of the political landscape in 2012, they have resurfaced in the early days of 2013, but this time in Georgia. U.S. Rep. Phil Gingrey, R-Marietta, said as he spoke to the Smyrna Area Council of the Cobb Chamber of Commerce that the former representative was “partly right.”
Here’s what Gingrey, an OB-GYN, said during his address, according to a report from the Marietta Daily Journal:
Todd Akin … was asked by a local news source about rape and he said, ‘Look, in a legitimate rape situation’—and what he meant by legitimate rape was just look, someone can say I was raped: a scared-to-death 15-year-old that becomes impregnated by her boyfriend and then has to tell her parents, that’s pretty tough and might on some occasion say, ‘Hey, I was raped.’ That’s what he meant when he said legitimate rape versus non-legitimate rape. I don’t find anything so horrible about that. But then he went on and said that in a situation of rape, of a legitimate rape, a woman’s body has a way of shutting down so the pregnancy would not occur. He’s partly right on that.
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And I’ve delivered lots of babies, and I know about these things. It is true. We tell infertile couples all the time that are having trouble conceiving because of the woman not ovulating, ‘Just relax. Drink a glass of wine. And don’t be so tense and uptight because all that adrenaline can cause you not to ovulate.’ So he was partially right wasn’t he? But the fact that a woman may have already ovulated 12 hours before she is raped, you’re not going to prevent a pregnancy there by a woman’s body shutting anything down because the horse has already left the barn, so to speak. And yet the media took that and tore it apart.
Gingrey after the MDJ’s report issued a statement clarifying that he did not defend or stand by Akin’s comments, adding that while attempting to provide context behind the comments of Akin and another congressman, his “position was misconstrued.”
Do you think Gingrey’s comments were appropriate? Why or why not?
Share what’s on your mind with us, and then return here to see what your neighbors in Paulding, Douglas and Cobb have said.
Perry
6:55 am on Monday, January 14, 2013
For an OBGYN he shows a complete lack of compassion for & understanding of women & women's issues. He needs to be voted out of office.
M Wilson
10:50 am on Monday, January 14, 2013
He certainly seems to be out of touch with women. Cannot believe as an OB-GYN he has shown such a lack of compassion and empathy with such a violent act against women. Rape is all about power over a woman. He needs to be removed from his seat of power.
John Dudley
3:19 pm on Tuesday, January 15, 2013
Doctor Gingrey knows what he is talking about. The facts about the physical processes of the human body that he has learned in medical school and dealt with every day for many years as a practicing physician have nothing to do with "compassion and understanding". He knows "women's issues" from the inside of the human body, and that is what he was trying to say. But there are many who would relish twisting his meaning so they could be "offended" and in that way attempt to embarrass another good conservative legislator. As another said "it fires up the loonies".
M Wilson
10:48 am on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
Have anyone else noticed that the positive posts about Gingrey are men? Glad they are not men in my life. My men are protectors of women.
M Wilson
10:51 am on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
Oops! Has..........
Charles Schwable
3:33 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013
I agree! let this happen to one of his female family members and see how he changes his mind!
John Himot
1:05 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
Perry I think he knows more about women's issues then women. Why would you want to vote him out of office for speaking the truth. Is that not what we want our leaders to do or are you on the left side of the tracks and want lies like we are getting from our current President who by your own standards should be fired.
M Wilson
4:55 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
Why do all political conversations have to end in name-calling? I believe in a party that values my opinion and puts the nation's interest ahead of its own. Unfortunately, both have been wallowing in the mud lately. We need to stay out of that mud. I think Gingrey is speaking to a very narrow-minded populace that only wants to hear very limited topics and beliefs. Because of this, his record is very slim with results. We have very few true "statesmen or stateswomen" anymore.
Donnell Woodly
6:43 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
The Doc is talking about reality. Some individuals use the law to their advantage in time of crisis. But the comment I hear so many republicans say, about the lies are Current President is saying. What lies? Republicans are like robots, they repeat the party line, verbatim... No thought. Even if what is promoted is impacting them in a negative way. Not all people receiving public assistance are minorities. In fact, most are not. What republicans are proposing will impact the majority, just as minorities. Who is being bashed as irresponsible, lazy etc.? It seems clear to me. I don't get it. Yes I Do. What lies, have Obama been saying /promoting? I think he has tried to be President for all Americans. Why is that effort not acknowledged by the Right. History, will judge him based on his accomplishments. He is the transitional president, that was needed. Society is changing. He is aware,competent and fair. He knows about the trial's associated with existing. He does not come from wealth. He has a realistic perception of reality and we are lucky he incorporates that knowledge in the policies he propose.
Rich "The Equalizer" Pellegrino
11:32 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
I'm with you M Wilson, and I agree that both parties dip in the mud and that there are not many statesmen left, however I must say that President Obama fits my understanding of a statesman in most everything that he does and how he does it. He does our country proud in so many ways (and by the way, I disagree with many of his policies), but I admire his thoughtful and deliberate manner, his intellect, his expression of feeling, and his attempts to bring together all sides without letting that get in the way of doing what needs to be done when some do not want to come to the table. To me he symbolizes everything much of what is good about America!
Rich "The Equalizer" Pellegrino
11:35 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
Donnell, I could not agree more with your description of President Obama and the important role he is playing in the transition of America to its true destiny and true strength--unity in diversity. The very fact that he was elected twice by the most diverse and varied group of Americans than any President before him speaks volumes!
M Wilson
10:31 am on Saturday, January 19, 2013
Needless to say, I am saving these comments for the coming election. I want to remind the voters of Mr. Gingrey's opinion. Hopefully, someone will run against him--a Democrat or Republican with common sense!
Jason
7:06 am on Monday, January 14, 2013
While he is right scientifically, approaching such a controversial topic at all shows a bit of political tone-deafness. He isn't going to make many converts and it fires up the loonies.
Jan Kennedy
2:34 pm on Monday, January 14, 2013
I would like to see his scientific evidence for his views. If controlling ovulation were so simple, I would think there would be fewer unwanted pregnancies. I can't wait to vote this man out of office! He is a disgrace!
Charles Schwable
3:35 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013
Wrong! He is Republican trashbag with comments like that! He needs to Go!
Randall Meadows
7:42 am on Monday, January 14, 2013
you would think one politician setting off this land mine would be enough to keep the next one from stepping on the same mine. This goes to show that our politicians will say anything that gets them face time on the media.
Anne Taylor
8:34 am on Monday, January 14, 2013
There is NO SUCH THING as a legitimate RAPE. I pray this term doesn't appear in Websters next year.
Christopher Jones
8:56 am on Monday, January 14, 2013
What is he referring to is false accusation of rape. It has NO poltical context. His decision to even bring it up indicates EXTREMELY poor judgment, and I will look carefully at his conservative opponents at the next election.
Peggy Cline
9:21 am on Monday, January 14, 2013
Totally agree he should NOT have brought it up and it shows poor judgement.
Gerry Geib
9:31 am on Monday, January 14, 2013
He just adds to the ever declinging precentage of peoples distaste for Congress lack of leadership
Randall Meadows
9:41 am on Monday, January 14, 2013
True ... things like this have a lot to do with Congresses current approval rate of 9% (the lowest in history).
Jim J
9:40 am on Monday, January 14, 2013
If you will remember, this is the same person who led the political theater in the Terri Schiavo episode. Schiavo had been in a persistent vegetative state for 15 years and Gingrey helped spearhead a Congressional supoena to have Terri Schiavo testify at a congressional hearing.
Jeff Biggers
5:42 pm on Tuesday, January 15, 2013
He was not even in congress when that occurred.
Jim J
8:28 am on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
Jeff, If you look on Gingrey's own website, you will see that he was elected to Congress in 2002. The Terry Schiavo episode happened in 2005.
http://gingrey.house.gov/biography/
Pam J
10:07 am on Monday, January 14, 2013
Good grief. Even if a 15-year-old has sex with her boyfriend, it's considered statutory rape only if the boy is older (I think). No such thing as "legtimate rape". Rape is rape. Nothing good about it. One of the problems I have with Republicans is that a lot of them really don't think that women have any worth. And most of the Republican women I know are somewhat "subservient" to their husbands.
Curtis Mathews
6:59 am on Tuesday, January 15, 2013
The example of two 15 year olds having consentual sex and the girl claiming rape at a later date is an example of an "illegitimate rape". If "illegitimate is too large a word for some, try "she wasn't raped." The operative word is "consentual".
There are degrees of statutory rape as well. In some states a boy 18 years old having consentual sex with a girl 15 years and 364 days old is guilty of statutory rape. This isn't rocket science.
Charles Schwable
3:41 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013
Pam,
Correct in your assumption of Republican Trash. but here is context of underage sex or rape.
O.C.G.A. § 16-6-3
GEORGIA CODE
Copyright 2012 by The State of Georgia
All rights reserved.
*** Current Through the 2012 Regular Session ***
TITLE 16. CRIMES AND OFFENSES
CHAPTER 6. SEXUAL OFFENSES
O.C.G.A. § 16-6-3 (2013)
§ 16-6-3. Statutory rape
(a) A person commits the offense of statutory rape when he or she engages in sexual intercourse with any person under the age of 16 years and not his or her spouse, provided that no conviction shall be had for this offense on the unsupported testimony of the victim.
(b) Except as provided in subsection (c) of this Code section, a person convicted of the offense of statutory rape shall be punished by imprisonment for not less than one nor more than 20 years; provided, however, that if the person so convicted is 21 years of age or older, such person shall be punished by imprisonment for not less than ten nor more than 20 years. Any person convicted under this subsection of the offense of statutory rape shall, in addition, be subject to the sentencing and punishment provisions of Code Section 17-10-6.2.
(c) If the victim is at least 14 but less than 16 years of age and the person convicted of statutory rape is 18 years of age or younger and is no more than four years older than the victim, such person shall be guilty of a misdemeanor.
Southern Humanist
10:36 am on Monday, January 14, 2013
These guys need to learn how to be unequivocal when it matters. Hemming and hawing about rape is disgusting. My $.02 http://southernhumanist.wordpress.com/2013/01/11/gop-congressman-phil-gingrey-talks-legitimate-rape/
Matt Sicignano
11:12 am on Monday, January 14, 2013
I guess he's still "practicing" medicine. He should comment again when he masters it!
MW
11:14 am on Monday, January 14, 2013
This shows Rep. Gingrey's inability to see why Akin's comments were such a firestorm the first time around. False rape accusations and the inability to ovulate have absolutely nothing to do with rape and shouldn't even be part of the discussion. Why would someone in office decide to bring up the issue of "legitimate rape" when it backfired so badly the last time? It's foolish and shows a serious lack of judgment.
MB
12:24 pm on Monday, January 14, 2013
I've been saying for years that Phil Gingrey is the most misogynistic man I've ever had the displeasure of working with. His views on women were always 'don't worry your pretty head about it, little lady." I'm just vindicated he finally said something publicly.
Donna
11:15 pm on Tuesday, January 15, 2013
Hi JB: It seems you know Mr Gingrey far better than anyone else here, unless Mr Gingrey is posting using an alias. Be that as it may, it's about time the truth be told, and I thank you for coming forward to let "the people" of this fine State of Georgia know the kind of man they have elected into office.
Donnell Woodly
12:24 pm on Monday, January 14, 2013
Rape is rape and it is wrong and against the law. Teens having sex does not equate to rape. The Law has been abused by some." Common sense" is so lacking in the American population.
Keith Cordell
12:50 pm on Monday, January 14, 2013
Why do the idiots in office always have to be from the South? Worse yet, my home...
Amy
12:52 pm on Monday, January 14, 2013
He shouldn't have said it. Worse, its making national news so it embarrasses all of us here. I guess the good news is he isn't an active doctor anymore?
http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/human_nature/2013/01/phil_gingrey_todd_akin_and_richard_mourdock_the_gop_s_rape_problem_is_spreading.html
Dave H. Hinchberger
1:30 pm on Monday, January 14, 2013
Make no mistake: idiocy and ignorance is everywhere, it is not determined by geography.
This is not a topic to be cavalier about and you should choose your method of delivery. Issues like this should not be made during a speech. Why Phil Gingrey would choose to speak about this topic, and how he's spoken about it, shows just how out of touch he is with human kind.
If he's lucky this won't go viral. However... I will be posting this link elsewhere on social media as I think these aren't the kind of people we need representing us, whether they're Republican or Democrat.
Bettie
2:00 pm on Monday, January 14, 2013
Sadly, this man is a representative of our state. Disgusting in my opinion.
Rich "The Equalizer" Pellegrino
2:20 pm on Monday, January 14, 2013
I am surprised that anyone is surprised about his behavior...I guess you were not paying attention.
Dave H. Hinchberger
2:31 pm on Monday, January 14, 2013
Let's not slam people for becoming educated - whenever they become educated Mr. Pellegrino.
Charles Schwable
3:46 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013
Richard,
On most topics you post and I am in agreement with along with this one! Mr Gingrey needs to go!
Rich "The Equalizer" Pellegrino
2:48 pm on Monday, January 14, 2013
I agree Mr. Hinchberger...It is never too late to learn anything!
Dave H. Hinchberger
3:39 pm on Monday, January 14, 2013
Big thumbs up :-).
Terry Lapierre
3:04 pm on Monday, January 14, 2013
Unfortunately he will be reelected in 2014!
Carol S
9:53 pm on Tuesday, January 15, 2013
Not if the voters of Ga wise up! NO one ran against Broun either - the crazy Congressional House republican that says evolution and carbon dating and ancient history are EVIL, and is on the science committee of the House. How sad for Georgia - we look SO backwards to the rest of the world.
Charles Schwable
3:44 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013
Not if I have anything to do with it!
Dave H. Hinchberger
3:43 pm on Monday, January 14, 2013
Share this link, keep the discussion going! One of the best tools we have as citizens in this day and age is the internet and the spread of ideas and change.
As long as your points and comments are intelligent when you re-post, you will hopefully get the correct attention that this fellow is not the person you want in office. Yes, he has tendrils in his area with "old diehard followers" but I've been seeing less tolerance for attitudes like this.
Spreading this comment and re-posting can bring about a discussion.. look what it's done here?
I've done my reposting.. and it was my opinion.. but done with tact. I hope :-).
Y'all take care.
Curtis Mathews
6:24 pm on Monday, January 14, 2013
Facts do have a way of confusing partisan hacks. Thanks for the explanation Dr Gingrey.
M Wilson
7:36 pm on Monday, January 14, 2013
Fact: Rape is a crime. There is nothing legitimate in a crime--especially a crime of violence and hate.
d1
7:44 pm on Monday, January 14, 2013
This is pathetic that this is our representative. Gingrey, why don't you worry about the government wanting to take our money and guns instead.
Lee
9:06 pm on Monday, January 14, 2013
If women's bodies can shut down and prevent conception in the case of a "legitimate" rape, what's all the fuss about birth control? Obviously, we wouldn't have to get pregnant unless we wanted to. Isn't that right, Mr. Akin and Mr. Gingrey? I pity the women who trusted him as their OB/GYN, and hope their pregnancies were uneventful and their babies born healthy.
John Himot
1:15 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
Lee many women will step up and say how loved and respected Phil as a OB/GYN . Many kids in Cobb County are here today because of his being their mothers Doc. I pity the poor fools who take what he said out of context as many here will do. You Dumb Masses.
Donna
11:32 pm on Monday, January 14, 2013
The only reason Phil Gingrey keeps getting elected as our State Rep., is because he's a Republican. I didn't say he was a smart man, I don't think he is. Just because he has MD after his name doesn't mean diddly. Even the guy who graduates at the bottom of the class gets to have MD after his name.
Never in my life had I heard the term...legitimate rape, until Mr. Akin shocked a nation with his babble about how women can shut down their bodies to prevent pregnancy....and to a point, Mr Gingrey agreed with him, "because he knows about these things." Well, Mr Gingrey I don't care what you think you know, but one thing I'm very sure of, I will celebrate the day you are voted out of office.
John Himot
1:19 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
Donna how many women have cried rape when it was not rape? It is like the race card which is used many times when people want to take down a person for what ever reason. Any man ever charged with rape and was found not guilty has never had a normal life afterword. Yes we have legitimate rape and none legitimate rape. To say other wise is just being part of the Dumb Masses. Do you fit that mold? Ya I think you do.
dean demerritt
8:38 am on Tuesday, January 15, 2013
Gingrey is a moron
Paul The East Cobb Liberal
12:22 pm on Tuesday, January 15, 2013
I'd agree with your 'moron' comment about Gingrey, but I think in his case 'moron' is too kind a word. Gingrey is just another in the seemingly endless parade of bozos the right wing in this country --and this area in particular-- just loves to keep electing and re-electing.
John Himot
1:20 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
Dean is part of the Dumb Masses.
John Himot
1:21 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
Paul you have joined Dean as part of the Dumb Masses , so many of you.
Jimmy
3:34 pm on Tuesday, January 15, 2013
I'd agree with your comment Paul but let's not be so easy on the left either: equally as moronic.
Lee
4:47 pm on Tuesday, January 15, 2013
At least the left doesn't believe that women's bodies can prevent conception without any assistance.
Donna
11:00 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013
To John Himot: John, you're showing your butt! Why is it if someone disagrees with your opinions, you resort to name calling. Are you in Elementary school? Is that why you are behaving so immaturely?
Shame on you John Himot, I'm certain your mother taught you better!
Lee
4:46 pm on Tuesday, January 15, 2013
To John Dudley: If Gingrey " knows "women's issues" from the inside of the human body," how can he say that Akin was in any way correct about what the female body can do to prevent contraception? Just because someone attends classes and gets a title does not mean they know anything. It's not a matter of just compassion, but of understanding what goes on in the body.
Carol S
9:48 pm on Tuesday, January 15, 2013
Gingrey is the same guy who got angry with our soldiers who rightly complained about not getting enough armour protection in Iraq with all the roadside bombs. Rumsfeld had told them to take what they have and shut up about it, and Gingrey had backed up Rumsfeld (yeah, some patriot, eh? Didn't even care enough for our soldiers). And Gingrey has been in Congress a long, long time, way before the Schiavo case. Gingrey is WRONG about women and how their bodies respond. A LOT of doctors know NOTHING about the nutritional needs of the body either. All they know is medicine and surgery and how to mask a problem until it "hopefully" goes away, through giving out drug after drug.
John Himot
1:26 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
Lee Phil is more Compassionate then you Dumb Masses think. He not only attended classes but practice Medicine for many many years before going to Congress. I have yet to her any other OB/GYN come out and say what Phil said was false. Do you think that a abortion Doc. is compassionate? If you do you truly are part of the Dumb Masses.
Donna
10:39 pm on Tuesday, January 15, 2013
Hi Carol S.: I'd forgotten that Gingrey backed up Rumsfeld when he told our men in uniform to use the sub-standard (not Rumsfeld's words of course) protection they had and shut up about it! Oh yeah, Gingrey is right there for our Military, NOT!!
I think Gingrey has been in Congress way too long. He is completely out of touch with the needs of the people of Georgia. He's become a total embarrassment to us, the people he is supposed to represent and sadly, to himself.
Curtis Mathews
9:53 am on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
I, and every vet I know, went to war with what we had, not what we wished we had. And, Rep has not embarrased me in the least.
Curtis Mathews
9:54 am on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
Rep Gingrey
Charles Schwable
4:02 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013
Well Curtis let me inform you of Mr Gingrey I am a vet too and had problems with nursing staff at VAMC in Decatur a few years ago and he didn't or wouldn't answer me back when I called his office or went to his website!! But, Senator Isakson did ASAP!! Gingrey or Chambliss have no concern for veterans or the active military service member!!
Charles Schwable
4:03 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013
Senator Isakson is also a veteran for your information compared to any non service member politician garbage!!
John Himot
1:29 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
Donna as a retired military Vet I have found Gingrey to be very helpful in getting many issues resolved with our military and Govt. Yes Gingrey is there for us vets active and retired. I am proud to call him my Congressmen.
John Himot
1:31 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
I concur with Curtis Phil has not embarrassed any of us vets at all. But the many post by many of you here surly has.
John Himot
1:40 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
Charles I too was in a military Hospital with broken bones and other problems, I had a few issues and I contacted Gingreys office. I got the answers I needed ASAP and all my issues resolved. You do not have to serve in the Armed Forces to serve this nation. I come from a long long line of family members serving in our Armed Forces. From before 1776 to present day . Part of the family motto is "Serve this nation either in the military or in support of the military" Gingery is supporting the military maybe not in the way you like but he is supporting the military and dong it well. My service was for well over 25 years as my fathers my brother and many other family members. We all have supported Gingrey and still do.
Alison Guyton
1:54 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
Gingrey certainly should not have even got involved in this discussion, but being his career profession and political status...I guess it isn't surprising he got drug into it.
That being said, agree or not, he did learn this in his medical training, as did anyone else with doctorate medical or veterinary schooling. Stress-induced anovulation is what it is called and is more routinely associated with extreme athletes or extreme dieting. However, in the instance he is referring to, in the case of legitimate rape, the extreme & traumatic stress created, if it happens in the women's cycle before her brain basically tells her ovaries to ovulate..YES, the body can "shut down" as was said and NOT ovulate and therefore NOT get pregnant from that specific intercourse. It certainly can delay the woman's cycle for that month.
Understanding hormone cascades and reproduction...it's complicated, some may not be able to wrap their heads around this "idea", BUT it is real and can truly happen. I don't know why the media, AJC PolitiFact research, etc didn't, but SHOULD HAVE found that this truly does happen, and Gingrey's statement that Akin was "partly right" was his way of saying it could happen, as in a complicated, remote chance.
That is the fact of this whole debate...not that ANYONE would want to rely on this form of pregnancy prevention in the case of rape if other options can about guarantee it!
Like him or hate him, scientifically, medically..he was correct!
Lee
2:01 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
If it's "partly right" because there is a "complicated, remote chance" of the woman's body shutting down and preventing conception, then he should have been more specific in his statement and said that while it is possible, it is more probable an outcome for extreme athletes or dieters than for the average woman being raped. That way, he could have stuck to his medical knowledge and still saved face and reputation.
Donna
11:24 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
Alison: Gingrey got involved in this "legitimate rape" discussion purely for political reasons. I doubt one would find the term "legitimate rape" in any medical text book. I believe most of us partaking in this discussion are able to "wrap our heads around" what you are talking about, when you explained how the body "can" shut down under certain circumstances. Yes, it's complicated and maybe even blurry at times, but not all things will most definitely happen when the body is stressed.
It's probably best to say, given the situation, the body CAN, not WILL, shut down.
John Himot
1:46 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
Finely someone here who know what they are speaking about unlike the many Dumb Masses which have posted so many negative post here. If I had to guess I would say most of those negative post are coming from the party of the left (democrats) who care nothing about facts . Thank you Alison for getting the truth out there. Not that many here want to hear the truth.
MA Evans
6:11 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
http://www.politifact.com/personalities/phil-gingrey/statements/
Gingrey's statements on PolitiFact.Com.
Rich "The Equalizer" Pellegrino
6:28 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
Not a very impressive record ...which again is no surprise.
Bilal Mahmood
9:02 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013
No worries about Gingrey, he's just another "seasoned" politician trying to defend his bud!
what's so funny is, most people would shut others up for being conservative or liberal, without caring for the content/truth/false. Hence i didn't call him repub or conservative..
I know many liberals and conservatives who are right on so many different issues.
John Himot
1:11 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
Have any of you ever met Phil? If you would have you would find him to be truthful and very knowledgeable on this subject. You would find him a very caring and loving family man with grown kids of his own yes he has daughters and a son. Richard you say not a very impressive record yet he has been re-elected time and time again on his record as one of the most conservative members of Congress. His district is mostly conservative so he is a perfect match for the job. So many of you who have posted here are most likely left leaning democrats who truly do not care about the good of our nation but only the good of self.
Bilal Mahmood
1:53 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
@ john Himlot: whatever self righteous conservative pill you took has worked! i wonder if Gingery prescribed it for you sir !
People want their leaders to speak the truth and do the right thing and not to show "whatever saves my bud attitude". I read all your comments and only can hope that you aint working for 'em boss!
take it down a notch and talk about the subject this forum is commenting on. as i said earlier, don't play the conservative/liberal games! your comment about "most of you here are left leaning democrats" is begging a question, why did you say so? you dont think conservatives have access to the internet and enough brains to analyse anything. conservatives only lost the election, NOT brains. there is always a tomorrow!
Just comment on the issue at hand... Mr Gingery is happy with you, those folks dont read these forums, they have their staffs to post and such!
John Himot
4:28 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
@ Bilal Mahmood thank you for your reply. Sorry I do not take a conservative pill like libs drink the kool-aid. I have lived on both sides of the political spectrum before finely settling in as a informed Republican. Unlike the left I do disagree with my party sometimes. Something Obama fans could learn to do. What Gingery has said is true though maybe not stated where many of you ill informed types could understand it. I do not work for him or anyone I am fully retired and have been since I was 55 . Yes I made a some good choices in my life to be able to have done so. Many here have made comments about Gingery and the GOP I have and will return the favor thank you. By the way we still control the House or have you forgot that part of the election or does your internet have that type of speed. I will say I have spoken out in town hall meetings with Gingery to let him know how I feel on many issues . I do get involved when ever I can on the issues.
Rich "The Equalizer" Pellegrino
11:23 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
John, I was referring to his record on truthfulness and honesty, as reported in politifact.com. I already knew that and have attempted to meet with him to find out why he spreads myths and untruths about immigrants in our community, but to no avail. Can you help me get a meeting with him...I am always open to being proven wrong about someone? (Conservative, in my understanding, does not mean being untruthful or hateful--does it? To me it means that you are conservative fiscally, and limited government, which I am all for, as long as it is applied across the board and doesn't just favor one group.)
Lee
1:56 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
Responses here are devolving into political and personal nastiness. My feeling is that if Gingrey knows so much more or better than the average citizen, in the dozen years he's been in politics he should have learned how to speak to be understood. If he is talking about legitimate rape as rape properly identified under the law, and he is saying that there are circumstances under which a woman's body can prevent unwanted conception, then he needs to be precise in his language to avoid stirring up people. Occasional mis-steps are part of being human, and I know I've made my fair share, but I have not been elected to represent people and make my positions understood to the so that they will be supported. If he hasn't learned that after all this time, then he needs to go back to his medical practice full-time and get out of politics (which in my opinion should not be a career for anyone).
Byron Rangitsch
2:25 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
Women should count their blessings that only 6/29ths of their rapings will result in pregnancy. Thanks for clarifying, Mr. Gingrey!
John Himot
11:14 am on Friday, January 18, 2013
For anyone wanting to get in contact with Phil Gingery just go to his local office on Kennesaw Ave. . Not sure of the address but can be found on his web site. Phil is a great man with great conservative ideas. He is a OB/GYN who can still practice in the state of Ga. No I do not work for him but can say I have supported him from day one when he first ran for the office. We have many common friends who too think highly of Phil. If you ever get to know him and those he calls friends you would know why I do support him. He is one reason I am a proud Republican who thinks on his own and yes will disagree with my party at times on some of the issues. Unlike many here on the other side who march in Goose step fashion to their glorious leader in the White House. We are all Americans here ( I hope if you are here complaining about one of our Nations Congressman) we each have a voice we each can slam the other on our thoughts of what we think is right and wrong.
Donna
11:21 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013
To John Himot: Just keep waving your hands for your buddy "Phil". Your name dropping does not impress me or anyone else here. My husband has written to "Phil" a number of times and has yet to hear a response. So, my respect for your buddy "Phil" is below average. Based on the comments being voiced on this forum, the majority of people (that's right, I said people) not your cutesy little name of Dumb Masses as you prefer to call us, don't hold Phil in high regard either.
Charles Schwable
2:10 am on Saturday, January 19, 2013
John,
I do not share in your enthusiasm about Mr Gingrey! I beg to differ on all aspects of him as a person, MD, and my local government representative! I will be voting for his opponent